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Jack Ross's avatar

Lindsay and Mamdani have way more in common than you let on, certainly when it comes to the level of privilege to which they were born. But my question is how exactly you define and draw the distinction between liberal and progressive, either historically or in the present. I don’t know how much I’d necessarily disagree with it, as someone who identifies in theory as a liberal (and socialist!) as opposed to a progressive I may even share your taxonomy intellectually more than in my kishkes, but I’m still confused by it.

David Jonathan's avatar

Thanks for a great piece Shaul. I have just one comment. You refer to American Jews' "rhetoric" of feeling afraid and unsafe, but I'm not sure that's the best way to describe what we’re seeing. I think it's very likely that the feelings are real, not just rhetorical. Having grown up in a North American Jewish community, I saw how the trauma of the holocaust and the history of persecution fed into real fears, and I still see the same thing when I talk to other Jews today.

One of my concerns here is that when we dismiss others' feelings as rhetorical and not genuine, we are essentially suggesting that they are arguing in bad faith. But that's a very hard position for dialogue to move forward from. And in this case, I myself am convinced that the claims are honest, that the feelings are real and not primarily a strategy to gain sympathy or provoke outrage. Personally, Mamdani makes me feel hopeful, not fearful, but that doesn't preclude the possibility that he makes others afraid. If we take the time to understand that fear, not dismiss it as disingenuous, we can come to a better picture of where others are coming from.

When someone like Cuomo shamelessly and transparently uses fear as a way of manipulating voters, that’s a different story, but I don’t think this is the best way to understand what we’re seeing within Jewish communities.

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